the polls for the "real clear politics" average, you see 40% to the president, 44 to mitt romney, thereabouts. joining us now bill ballinger the edda toefr inside michigan politics. we last talked with him about three weeks ago. bill, three weeks ago it looks like mitt romney cut the lead that the president had according to the "real clear politics" average in half. it was a pretty sizable swing inside that state. does the momentum feel like it's moving towards romney a little bit? >> yes it does. no question romney has improved his position from three weeks ago, the debate was really the single factor that did it. neither candidate has personally visited the state, and i really think for romney to win the state or so many very close he has to make a personal appearance here some time between now and november 6th. so far he's only sent in surrogates, paul ryan was here earlier in the week, ann romney is here today but romney himself has not shown up since last summer. jenna: sometimes when pundits talk about michigan it's sort of like a one tphoerpbgs there is the auto industry there, the aut